What would the Founding Father's think of the modern presidency?
Is the President the most powerful person in the world or is the President not as powerful after all? Support your answer!!
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What would the Founding Father's think of the modern presidency?
Is the President the most powerful person in the world or is the President not as powerful after all? Support your answer!!
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No the president is not as powerful as everyone may think. He does indeed have power however, there are many things that limit the presidents power as well. The congress plays a big role with the president, the bills are passed through the house or senate then the president. Although he does have the power to veto the bill congress can be override his veto. If he was so powerful why can't he pass gun control? It all falls in line with checks and balances. One of the reason people think the president is the most powerful may be because he takes the blame for everything because he is the president. Most people don't know or get into politics so know little about the limits the president has, he can't do the outline veto. The founding fathers knew not to give the president to much power because they were afraid of him becoming a dictator or monarch.
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Deleteagree with you mayda it's either the president will get praised for the positive change that occurs ,or he will be repulsed for the spiraling effect
DeleteI agree with Mayda on how everything the president has power over has to get in line with checks and balances. He can do a lot of things, but has to make sure he's in line with the other branches of government.
DeleteI agree with Mayda because the president isn't too powerful he has limitations to.
DeleteI agree wit Mayda on how there are many things that limit the presidents power congress being one.
DeleteI agree, the President isn't all that powerful.
DeleteI agree, the president doesn't have as much power at poeple thinks.
DeleteI agree with Mayda president has limitations to his presidency and because he isn't a dictator he can't pass laws instantaneously such as the banning of guns or health care reform and by the congress being able to vote and approve these laws like the health care makes dirty politics come in to play and makes things pass or fail and kill a bill.
DeleteAs we take a look at the president it's clear that power is seen but with a lame duck government that just limits the presidents overall effect. The founding father's would be pleased for the simple fact that they didn't want to give the government total control( Great Britain).
ReplyDeleteIt is a very long process to pass bills and such for the fact that the house and senate don't agree on things and have different views.
DeleteI agree, this does elongate many of the processes that really we cannot not afford to postpone. It does seem that the government limits the president's overall effect leaving little progress to be made.
DeleteFirstly, I know think they'd all be in awe of how much more responsibility the president has. They'd look at how big our country is, how recent technologies have changed the world, how the military is handled, how fast one can communicate with others, how there are now weapons of mass destruction, and so on. I'm sure they'd have to readjust their views on a president when considering all these new things going on that weren't going on in the late 1700s. The president isn't the most powerful man in the world, because they're constantly being battered and maybe too much is blamed on them. Congress keeps the president in check and so does the judicial branch. I've heard that he is the most powerful man in the world, not necessarily the most influential over Congress or foreign leaders as we'd like him to be, but he does have a lot to deal with and a lot to direct access to things.
ReplyDeleteAgreement with you on Congress and judicial branch. The President is not the most powerful man! MOST def not the most influential over Congress
DeleteI also agree with you on congress. The president cant handle everything on his own.
DeleteI agree the reality is that the President does not have an extreme amount of power over the government and the world. Checks and balances makes sure that each branch serves as a check over the other branch. However, presidents have expanded the meaning of the constitution for their own benefit/power.
DeleteHonestly many people do believe the President has the most power in the country in reality, well let's just say in my opinion, i believe he doesnt. The congress does. The things we want the president to hear, 9/10 the Congress ends up hearing it. The Congress have much power and much WORK than the President. I've always seen the President as a laid back guy. Well not this president but many too. Learning more about What's around me made me realize the President does not have the most power. Mistake me If I'm wrong.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you most people think the President has all the power but in reallity he doesn't
DeleteI'm not sure what the founding father sought to accomplish with a president since most of the power(responsibility) ,from my opinion, is lead to the congress. However, I believe the president has less power then what is demonstrated. The only two major things the president does is delegate affairs with foreign countries and have the final say for whether a bill can be accepted to be a law. Overall I think he's very lay back.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on what the president holds position to. The president can veto, bring affairs, treaties, etc..? so yes the president is very laid back when it comes with the government running.
DeleteI can agree to what you mentioned about the president. The president doesn't really have all the power since the congress and the judicial branch runs most of the work. The only advantage the president has its some little privileges like being the commander in chief but that's pretty much it.
DeleteI agree, to be honest, the president seems to be a face of the country but not the one who actually runs the place. That might what the founding fathers wanted so that he does not have all the power and the country become a Monarchy.
ReplyDeleteI do not think the president is very powerful at all. It seems that a majority of the things he chooses to do congress has to agree or approve it. People think presidents have the most power because they're the ones that answer for our country. I also don't think the founding fathers would like the way presidency is. I don't think it's the way they intended it to be. It could be better.
ReplyDeleteThat is so true. Just because the president is the one that answers for us, the people automatically blame him. But what he people don't see is that everything is always up to the congress. And if the congress and the president don't agree, nothing gets done.
DeleteAs we have seen in class and learned through discussion, the president is not as powerful as we may all think him out to be people may look at him as the power of the united states, but when it comes down to it he is pretty much just the face of America figuratively speaking. Yes he may have the power to veto, but that veto can always be over ridden by congress.
ReplyDeleteAs for the thoughts of the founding fathers towards modern day presidency they would be surprised to say the least at how the country has advanced and changed throughout the years. Some parts of the nation they might find pride in while in others they could just be disgusted with.
The president is not powerful. His powers are divided into three parts. Him having 1/3 of it. Congress and the Judicial have their fair share. But people think the president is the most powerful man in the country. But it's not, He can veto bills. But congress make more things what the president can't do or overturn his decisions. What the founding father would say is that they would be part happy and part disappointed. The would be happy as the country is advancing and moving a new step. But will be disappoint on how much debt we are, International affairs and allowing upper class people to take over the once proud things the people want is the power to vote.
ReplyDeleteI agree about how congress holds most of the power over the other two branches. Congress these days is not cooperating and is using money to support coorperations just to support them. They are also able to overide the president's decisions and have the power to impeach him/her.
DeleteI agree that the president is not powerful. He has the power to veto laws but can be overturned by congress which keeps his powers in check.
DeleteI agree in that congress does have most of the power because it can make more decisions and changes than the president. To veto a law is some power but by any means can be overturned by congress which somewhat lowers the power of vetoing.
DeleteThe president does not have as much power as I had originally believed. Turns out most of the decisions concerning the nation rests in the hands of the congress. It clears up a lot of the misconceptions that many people had when it comes to the government. I would say they have more power than an average mayor or governor, but again, less than the congress as a whole. It serves as a good way to check his power but also slows down the process of policies and such. I think the founding founders would be impressed, because all in all we have made many advancements as a nation compared to beforehand, but the way government is run is still not perfect.
ReplyDeleteThe Founding Fathers intent was to not give the president to much power because they feared the abuse of power and they wanted to avoid it becoming a monarch or a dictatorship. And for that reason I believe they would be pleased with the modern presidency.
ReplyDeleteNo the president isn't the most powerful person. Many people think he is just because the president takes the blame for everything, good and bad, just because he represents the country. We've learned that the Congress is basically above everything and everyone. The Congress decides in most issues. The majority if he Congress has to agree to pass a law or appoint someone new to an office. If the congress doesn't agree, nothing is done. The president can only give ideas but not enforce them.
I agree the president is not the most powerful person, I think Congress is above anything like you said.
DeleteI think the Founding Fathers would be both disappointed and pleased with today's Presidency. Disappointed because whatever power power that was designated to the President, it has increased tenfold. However, I think they would be pleased to see that there are still strict limitations on his power and upon his actions.
ReplyDeleteIn the end, the President is not that powerful. While he has power to enforce laws, reject them, make treaties, and etc. Congress is what controls most of the legislation actually taking place. On top of that, the Supreme Court interprets and can overturn Congress's legislation. Thus, whatever action the President takes, there is likely to be a way for such action to be changed or not taken into account.
I agree with what Diego said about the president's actions and how easily they can be overturned. Majority rules even if you are the president.
DeleteI think the founding fathers would disappointed with today's presidency. Because he is not doing a lot for the people. He might tell us yeah I'm going to this and that, but money talks and if the lobby's in his back pocket the president s going to support them. As we learn in class most Americans think that the president has all the power and everything is in his hands, but is NOT he doesn't have much power if the house and senate don't approve something there is not much the president can do.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you! The government is centered around money. It is different from what the founding fathers had in mind. Money is blinding the government from what truly is important.
DeleteYour right, the senate and the house have more to do with the power than the president and money does control it all.
DeleteI agree with you the government it's centered around money.
DeleteI slightly disagree. The founding fathers were moved by money to act.. although it may not be the primary reason, we cannot disregard this factor.
DeleteThe president isn't really as powerful as most people think. The power is shared between the three branches of the U.S. government and has been since the founding of this country. The president can only pass laws and veto bills as stated in the constitution. But lately, Congress has been slowly gaining power over the years and are stuck on a stalemate on what legislation must be passed for the United States. The president, in my opinion, is more like a figurehead for thr party he/she is part of. The president can only take action if both houses of congress are cooperating and supporting him/her.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the point of the president as the figure head, or puppet as I see it. People still have the wrong idea that he is the one to blame for problems. He doesn't have much say as to what gets done by himself.
DeleteI believe the founding fathers would see modern presidency as a joke, based on the reality that none of them are in it for the better of the country. I also think they wouldn't approve of all the crazy loop holes that are used in today's politics. The president, however, doesn't have all of the power to himself. This is a good thing yet also has a negative affect. The system is attempted to be based on equal power, but in return, has split society in a selfish manner.
ReplyDeletei agree with the system not being equal. The foundning fathers didn't intend for this nor the loop holes. The founding fathers also wouldn't like the way our monetary system is set.
DeleteThe foundning fathers would probably be dissapointed with the way the presidency is now. The president doesn't necessarily lack power but does have less than congress which i have come to blieve has probably most power and influence over which laws will pass and which won't. With that being said i strongly believe the president is'nt the most powerful man in the nation. That wasn't what the foundnig fathers intended to do but they also didn't intend for congress to have that much power either.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Oscar because the founding fathers did not intend for one branch to be more powerful than the other they wanted an equal system.
Deleteyes Oscar I agree with you. Everything is messed up and corrupt.
DeleteThe president isn't as powerful as many people think he or she is, she/he only has the power to propose policies that could be accepted or rejected by congress or veto bills which could lead to congress overriding the veto or accepting the veto depending on the president's reason for the veto. Even so, people think he makes the laws and can do whatever he wants, when ever he wants, and how ever he wants to do it. Al he does is propose laws, veto bills, and command the military, and is blamed for whatever negative things occur during his/her presidency.
ReplyDeleteI believe the Founding fathers would be proud with the powers of the presidency today because the made checks and balances so that not one branch would be to strong and that is exactly what it is today. The president does not walk on water and do any thing he wants he must be backed up by congress witch is a extremely long and hard process.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the founding fathers would be quite pleased with the president now a days. They did not want tyrants or dictators like in Great Britain so checks and balances was created so every branch would not have more power than the other.
ReplyDeleteGrowing up I always thought the president was super powerful and made all the laws, but boy I was wrong. The president is not the most powerful person in the world. If the president wants to do something congress has to agree with him and it doesn't help if we have a divided government.
I think that the Founding Father would be in shock with the way the presidency is handled today. First of all, the president rarely passes a law due to a spilt HoR and Senate.
ReplyDeleteAnd the president is NOT the is not as powerful as society makes it seem, first you have the way how the HoR and Senate an over ride his veto, then how he can be impeached, and finally, he can't really pass laws without the approval of Congress.
It's no doubt that the President is a powerful title, however, the President does not have as much power as everyone believes. Due to how the founding fathers set up the government the power of the President is limited. Congress plays a major role, and in my opinion is by far more powerful than the President.For example if the President wants to pass a new bill, all he can do is write it and get it to Congress. The rest is really up to them. The bill has to go through the House of Representatives and the Senate. Yes, if the President doesn't agree with a bill he can veto it, but most of the process is simply not up to him.
ReplyDeleteI agree with jessica the founding fathers gave the president a strong title but limited his power with congress. Many americans do not understand the way the government is set up. They believe its all the president.
DeleteYes the president is a huge title, but is he really the only person keeping everything in order. The president is NOT all that powerful. The name gives you the title as head of the U.S. He also needs help when it comes to making decisions and that is where congress comes into play. Honestly I also believe congress is more powerful than the president because they get to make more decisions than the president his self.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because even when the president makes decisions he needs help and thats when congress comes in. I also agree with what you said about thew title just makes you head of the U.S.
DeleteIf the founding fathers were alive today I believe they'd be pretty surprised as how much our country has grown in the aspect of government. With that being said. I believe being the president is a very prestige title to hold and obtain. You have power to control and deploy the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen, the power to veto a bill, and the ability to make treaties without the consent of congress. However, the expectation of the presidents power is far fetched. People seemingly mistake him as the creator of all the laws. That he can pass anything he wants at any given moment, however this isn't the case. The public does not realize that there is many steps to go through and many people who have to agree on the choices that are made for the nation. The president is powerful, to an extent. In my opinion he is more like a powerful influence to the people.
ReplyDeleteI agree the government has greatly expanded since the days of the founding fathers. There are a lot of duties that the president performs and that comes with prestige but there are also many limitations and steps he must go through before he can do anything.
DeleteIt would be an amazing response if the founding fathers saw how the modern president is and the government. They would probably be ashamed and want to do something to change it back to its roots. I wouldn't blame them since our government has indeed grown way too much. As for the president, the president doesn't have much power as one would think. Yes he has certain privileges that the other branches have such as the right to veto and war powers but with out the other branches approval, he or she can't do a whole lot. That's pretty much it on what I got to say.
ReplyDeleteI see where you get this from, but I would respecfuly disagree with you. There is no way the founding father would, or could, change the govement back to what it use to be due to our ever changinng society. We, and our goverment, has a lot more to overlook and concider when making and changing laws. We have more technological advances to a greater amount of citizens as a whole. In the end there are too many diffeences between when the founding fathers were in charge tto now, the original goverment wouldn't be able to handle it(that's why there have been so many changes to it over the years).
DeleteThe power of the president has increased significantly as different presidents throughout American history have expanded the president's duties. However the constitution still has strict limitations and checks and balances that keep the president in line. The founding fathers would be pleased because they wanted a strong central government after the failure of the Articles of Confederation but they also wanted to keep America from becoming a monarchy with a king in charge. The founding fathers also gave Congress significant powers like passing legislation which keeps the president from becoming too powerful and doing things his way.
ReplyDeleteNo, the president isn’t as powerful as everyone may think. He does have some power, but because of congress his power is very limited. Other things also play a big part in the limitation of the president’s power as well. It may only happen about 7% of the time, but even if the president vetoes a bill, congress can overrule his veto and make the bill a law. That just proves how much power the president has and how it can be taken away if congress wants something done. People may think that the president is very powerful only because he takes the blame for everything that goes on. Little people know about politics so they don’t know about the president’s limitations. The founding fathers didn’t want the president to have too much power because they were afraid of him becoming a dictator.
ReplyDeleteI believe that if the founding fathers had a chance to see today's modern presidents, they would feel proud but also slightly disappointed. When the founding fathers established the Constitution, they believed that the federal people government needed more power. It was very weak, which made the our country vulnerable. They created the Checks and Balances between the three government branches, which made sure one didn't overpower the other. This is why I think the founding fathers would be proud. They can see their ideas still being used today. But at the same time, I believe they would have slight disappointment because of the central focus of the government today. Now, everything revolves around money. Also, I believe that the president doesn't have the most power in the government. I believe the legislative branch might even have more power (underlying). It may not be so, but I feel as if they might. The president just seems to be a puppet or a figure-head in the government's plans.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on the founding fathers being slightly proud of todays presidency. I actually do belive that the creation of the checks and balances did balance out power. I haven't really thought about it that way though but you actually do put a good point of view.
DeleteI agree with Derek about having a weak government would make our country look weak, so the power that the government has gotten over time on each branch is well worth it. Each branch has it's part to do in the government.
DeleteIn my opinion the founding fathers would be disappointed. Not everything in our country is bad but it's probably not what the founding fathers meant. Such as the right to bear arms. Who knows if they meant everyone or just certain people so whatever they meant with that I'm sure it's not anything like the way things are now. As for the president and him being powerful, well he somewhat is. He's not as powerful as everyone assumes he is but he is the image of our country and that can do alot. Another thing is that he is can choose to veto certain things. Once again since he is the image, and he is who Americans look up to, a lot of scandals happen when the president is involved in something or if someone goes against a president which I'm sure many politicians will try to prevent that. He also is the one who suggest certain justices which is a great deal. So yea he's not as powerful as we assume but we could be underestimating him.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think the founding fathers would be disappointed in today's "modern" presidency. If the founding fathers set something up in which they thought the country would be in good standing conditions. As we see today we can't make change because of the gridlock we have. The president isn't as powerful as people think. He doesn't make decisions on his own and the decisions he does make need to be voted on etc. The power is divided so no one has too much nor too little power. People see the president as the most powerful person in the world but I think once you sit there and learn that there is so much to it you don't think about it the same.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Aidee because the founding fathers can see that the gridlock isn't as good as it seemed back then. I know we have changed it a lot throughout the years because of the pollitical parties but still. Not much can get done and the people aren't barely being heard.
DeleteI believe the founding fathers would be plesently supised to see how far the goverment has progress fom what they started. They wouldn't be completly overjoyed, because of certain things our goverment could do(congress raising their pay). BUT on the other hand, they'd be glad to see not one person has complete control over everthing(like parlament).
ReplyDeleteTaking from the average americans assumptions of the president, then no the pesident is NOT as powerful as most of ameicans see him. He doesn't souly make decisions that'll directly affect the american people. All of the presidents decisions have to be voted on by THE PEOPLES representatives nd vise versa. Not everyone knows this so the more you know the more the complicated our goverment gets.
I agree with Alexis that the founding fathers would be somewhat happy. I also do agree with the fact that the president is not the most powerfull person. She has a point in how the decisions of the president have to be voted on.
DeleteI think the Founding Fathers would be both disappointed and pleased with today's Presidency. Disappointed because they would see how the whole country revolves around money. Pleased to see that there are still strict limitations to the president's power. The President is not the most powerful person. He does have power to enforce laws, veto bills, make treaties, and more. But in my opinion Congress is the one who controls most of the legislation and the one who has more responsibilities.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything you said. They would displeased with how the gov't runs mostly on money and corruption. That was not what they wanted America to become. Ans as for the president, i agree that he holds less power than the congress.
DeleteThe president is not as powerful as many people belief he is because of the checks and balances that keeps the three branches in check. The president has certain powers that can be overwritten by other branches and so that it keeps that one person from making choices that may not be beneficial to the country. The founding fathers would be pleased with the power that the president has because his powers is balanced with the rest of the branches.
ReplyDeleteI agree, there is checks and balances that keep the president in check and everyone has there benefits but they can't go over bored with it.
DeleteYea, I agree with the checks and balances. Also he has to get many things done, but they must be approved by congress. He really doesn't have power because of congress.
DeleteI think the founding fathers would be appalled to see how everything revolves around money but over all pleased. In reality the president is not very powerful and that’s thanks to checks and balances. Every branch has there set amount of influence and power but they also makes sure no other branch is going over there limit.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the framers would feel both appeased and disappointed. They would feel pleased to see that, even though a lot has changed, there are still strict rules and regulations that have to be followed because they decided it that way and the people of the gov't have to respect and follow those rules. They would feel disappointed because the gov't has become corrupt and defiant to some of the rules they placed.In reality, the president does not have the power most people imagine he has. He is restricted by rules and congress. He might be the head of the country, but he has to answer to a lot of people before he can do anything.
ReplyDeleteNo, the president is not that powerful at all. The only kind of power he has is with the military and even with that, he even has some restrictions. The founding fathers might be somewhat disappointed because they did not intend to make congress powerful. Now, congress rules a lot in making laws and other things.
ReplyDeletei agree with ivan because the president does really only have the power of the military but only in nuclear attacks or arial other than that hes just a pupet.
DeleteI think that the framers of the united states would be disappointed because it’s not till now that were messing up one of the first things that George Washington said not to do was form political parties and that the first thing we went right ahead and did. I believe the president is not the most powerful person in the world because if he were he would have the ability to do anything and everything he wanted to, and he can’t he is as elected officer by the people and can also be removed by the people if he doesn’t do what we want or if he does something unconstitutional.
ReplyDeleteI think the Founding Fathers would be disappointed at today's modern presidency, because they would see how the government is centered around money. I don't think they wanted the government to be all about money. I don't think the president is the most powerful person, because he is restricted by the congress, he can't really do anything if congress doesn't approve it.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Many representatives have people in their back pockets that bribe them to make decisons for them instead of the people.
DeleteI don't think the founding fathers would be okay with our modern day presidencey. The whole reason they did what they did was to get us away from monarchy and make us a free nation filled with opportunities. I'm sure they would be expecting adaptations to our modern world but they'd be greatly disappointed in what we have actually done. They'd be shocked in how money has become more important than whatever the issue sould be presented.
ReplyDeleteThe president in reality does not have as much power as we think. He's more like the face of America. He has to abide by a lot of strict rules that limit his power as president. Which is what the founding fathers wanted. Someone who will represent the country as a whole but also have the power to make quick, rash decicions when it's needed.
I agree because the president can't really do anything without congress approving, too.
DeleteI think the founding fathers wouldn't be happy with todays presidency. Primarily because todays government is all about money. Secondly because the president cant do anything with out the congress approval.
ReplyDeleteI agree because the fathers wanted what was BEST FOR THE PEOPLE not for companies and businesses. IF the father had the ability to see the future of today they would have made many additions and changes to the constitution.
DeleteThe founding fathers would be upset with the way the president and the government runs. The Fathers wanted a government where the people elect their representatives, which they got, however the way the government runs behind close doors would make them think twice about the US Constitution. The president is what the Fathers wanted and knew it was necessary,and knowing that the president has their limited powers implied is good enough for them. So the president doesn't have much power, but much influence with the people and the media. The true power holders would be congress themselves. The way the congress is made up can cause issues to uprise frequently like right now in Obama's presidency.
ReplyDeleteI think that the Founding Fathers would be disappointed if they were to see our modern presidency. They wanted a government for the people. They didn't want to make a monarchy and wanted central government for the better of the people. In my opinion, they would to see that the US is still a democratic country but disappointed to see how corrupt the government is. The people don't have as much say in things unless there's a lot of money behind them.
ReplyDeleteFrom what we have learned in class, I don't think that the president is the most powerful person in the world. He isn't a millionaire and he can't do whatever he wants. Everything he wants to pass has to go through the Congress and unless they approve it, he won't get his way. People with money are the most powerful because that's how they buy candidates and all that stuff. They get their way most of the time and the President isn't one of them.
I believe the founding fathers would be pleased about the successful growth of the nation , and the president's success in keeping the nation together. However, they would be displeased by the corruption and selfish desire for monetary gain that has dominated the government.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is that the president is not the most powerful person in the world. Although in modern times presidents have expanded their power provided by the Constitution, they are still strictly limited due to checks and balances. Both legislative and judicial branch make sure that the president does not exceed his powers.
I would agree with you if by "growth of the nation" you meant by the literal expansion (manifest destiny) in spite of all the destruction it has caused other civilization. If you meant by the expansion of the government then I would disagree because a larger government becomes closer to a monarchy that controls and limits the people.
DeleteI also agree that the founding fathers will approve of the expansion of the country as a whole however they would disapprove of the corruption the country now has. Everything concerning power has money involved and that would be something no one in the colonial era would approve of.
DeleteI agree with you. The fact that such a large, diverse country has been kept together and thriving is something the Founding fathers would be proud of. Of course they would also be quite unhappy at the size of modern government.
DeleteI don't think the founding fathers would be very pleased in which the modern day politics are being run. The part that they probably will not really understand is the way that politic became so corrupt.
ReplyDeleteAs for the president he is not the most powerful person in the world. This can be seen by the way he must get the "O.K." from congress on most things such as treaties and the involvement of troops in war. Not only that but congress can impeach a president. That shows that he does not have much power unless congress allows it and congress can also overturn a veto of the president and still pass a law they would like.
I, too, believe that the founding fathers would be disappointed in today's politics. For our Government to be overwhelmingly bigger than what had previously been imagined is not only gut stabbing, but sickening in the stomach. Though true that the president can and cannot do certain war task. He can, however, launch missiles strike anywhere in the world he see fit. I think that in its self would have terrified the founding fathers.
DeleteI believe the Founding Fathers would be disappointed in today's government. Today, government is controlled by affluence rather that influence. An example, the healthcare law would be against the Founding father's ideology as it limits the people's choice and is a method of how government has expanded.
ReplyDeleteI believe the president has the capability of becoming the most powerful person in the world. Though he has direct control of the military, this is not his primary way of power. If a president appeared who could move people with his words then he would be able to do almost anything he wanted. As congress and the supreme court would be on his side. An example can be seen with Adolf Hitler, he was able to lead the masses with his eloquent speeches, and was able to do whatever he wanted. But thanks to limited terms his/her "reign" would be short lived.
true and he has the chance the president could pack the supreme court if members resign or passaway as well as promote some one from his political party has same ideals so that when he leaves the white house they can win the presidancy by using his popularity (coattailing)
Deletethe founding fathers never wanted the president to have a lot of power in fear of a possible monarchy. thus they would believe that the president has too much power if the cards are in his favor. for instance obamacare was passed with out alot of thought hell congress voted for it before they had the chance to read the bill. and one more thing if given the oppurtunity the president can pack the suprememe court with the people whose ideals are most like his .
ReplyDeleteThe Founding Fathers would definitely be horrified by the amount of power the President has. In fact, they would be horrified at how big the Government has gotten period. Nonetheless, they would look at the current situation of our country and understand why the Government and President must have so much power. I do not think the President is the most powerful person in the world. The Checks and Balances system put in place at the founding out the nation prevents that. Also the Americans' strong belief in democracy and fear of a dictatorship will never allow for that. Is the President a key player in our Nation's foreign relations and domestic life? Yes. Is he the only on? No.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement. You made a great point in saying that Americans' strong belief in democracy will never allow a president to have too much power. It seems like in this country, one lone person will never have full control of the entire nation. The president is powerful, but will not be the most powerful.
DeleteIn my opinion, I don't believe the Founding Fathers would approve of the current presidency. I'm not saying Obama is a horrible president, but I don't think the Fouding Fathers thought the president would simply become an image who could be bought over with a large amount of money. The president nowadays is simply the face of many interest groups which are who in reality run the country.
ReplyDeleteThe president, however, I believe is not very powerful to some extent. When it comes to large decisions like war and such, yes the president is powerful, however in terms of making laws, the president is not powerful at all. Yes he can make executive orders but the legislative branch, Congress, is much more powerful than the president. This is where my previous statement of the president being a pure image or "ideal" representative of our country comes to place.
I would have to agree with Sandra what the Founding Fathers thought as a president wasn't someone that had the money of intrest groups but one who cared for the nation but it doesn't that he isn't the powerful like you said.
DeleteIf the Founding Fathers would not be proud of this modern presidency. With the fact that we didn't listen to what they told us. Not to create political parties or, get caught in foreign affairs...etc.
ReplyDeleteThe president doesn't have to much power as most really thought he did even though he can over rule most of congress request the Congress as for things in their favor like overthrowing a veto or create laws that the president doesn't even know about them.
i agree, another reason the founding fathers would be disappointed would be because they didn't want political parties to be created.
DeleteI agree with your evidence showing that the Founding Fathers would be disappointed because we created political parties and will add to that by stating that the Founding Father George Washington himself would be vary disappointed by the fact we involed ourselves in foreign affairs.
DeleteModern presidency represents growth and power of the nation. It shows resiliency on different issues that are faced and the desire for recognition, so I believe that the founding fathers will be satisfied with what the present is like. The U.S. is recognized throughout the world as a successful country thanks to the modern presidents that have gotten the country to this point. Yes there are many problems, but they are faced head on, which could possibly make the founding fathers proud. The only disappointment to the founding fathers would be all the corruption, but then that’s an underlying topic.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like the president is the most powerful person in the world. Due to the capabilities of them calling war on so many countries now and the wealth and fame they are to possess it seems like the president is a powerhouse. Many fear the U.S., with the representation of the country being the president. However, due to what we know about congress and supreme court, we know that the president isn’t as powerful as they are glorified to be. They're just the face of the country, being constantly checked on by other sources
I think that the Founding Fathers would be dissapointed at todays presidency because it is not as strong and powerful as it should and can be. I would think that the Founding Fathers would have wanted most power to be in a presidents hands but its not. For example athough as easy it is for the president to veto a bill its just as easy for congress to override that veto. Overriging a veto would just make a president look bad to everyone around. Therefor if a president kind of agrees with a bill but isn't really sure he will just leave the bill alone and let it become a law just in case if it fails later in a way its not the presidents fault. In my opinion congress has alot of power in law making compared to the president. Of course people will think regardless that the president is the most powerful only because of all the blame he receives.
ReplyDeleteMany uneducated people believe that the president is the most powerful, just because he is the face of our country, and the one to let the world know what is going on. The true power and the people that do most of the work is behind the scenes as in congress and representatives. They are the ones that makes the laws and can override a veto by getting two-thirds vote in the house.The founding fathers didn't imagine how the world would be now days with all the things that are going on, and how big the government has gotten and progressed through the years. its kind of hard to think what they would think about it now days.
ReplyDeleteThe founding fathers would be proud of the presidency some ways disappointed and ven amazed how large the presidency actually became and how strong america has become since 1776. The role of the president in ways is the most powerful person in the world by having the worlds strongest military and nuclear weaponry the world has yet to see. With acts such as the executive order and deciding why to pick and choose of laws why he likes and dislikes and proclaiming executive order makes him the most Powerful. The president has however had a weakness due to checks and balances and the congress being able to overturn a veto and the supreme court to define what is and is not constitutional. The president is and isn't the most powerful person in the world but has the worlds strongest military at the fingertip of his hands.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you the presidency has come along way since it was first established, even though it has not followed the guidelines set by our founding fathers it has since been successful in its own way.
DeleteI disagree with roy because just because he stops bills from crossing doesnt mean hes powerful it just shows how much the interest groups that he has in his back pocket that is going to be affected by the bill have the president by the strings.
DeleteIt is hard to say weather or not if the founding fathers would be disappointed in our modern Democracy, because the our founding fathers based the constitution to protect their wealth. To see that the President is wealthy, as well as numerous other congressmen, is no different than congressman during the time of the founding fathers. For the record, I would like to think that the founding fathers would be very upset to see that our Government has grown ever so powerfully and the voice of the common man is reduced to a whisper. To see big bankers work short hours and earn long paycheck isn't what the founding fathers had in mind when our great country was founded. However, off the record, I would think the founding fathers would've congratulated today's politicians for expanding their wealth and jokingly state " You beat me to it!" as each try to gain more power and wealth than their colleagues. I think their is a misconceived idea that the President is the most powerful person of the western world. It is true that the United States Military Industrial Complex has surpassed the rest of the world, but that doesn't make him the most powerful, only the most fearful. Though checks and balances hold the president back, it does show that He, too, must play by rules set up by the constitution. Then again I believe that the President can be the most powerful person in the world if he need be.
ReplyDeletei agree that the president is held back by the system and that he is not an exception the constitution's rules.
DeleteMy initial thoughts of the presidency and the president were that the president ran everything and had all the power. But entering AP and going in depth ive come to understand that the president isnt as powerful as we are lead to believe. Congress holds much power in politics and the president is somewhat of a poster child for the nation so he is constantly under a microscope. As far as the founding fathers are concerned i feel they would not approve of the presidency but would understand why things are currently the way they are.
ReplyDeleteI agree that government class has helped me to better understand the powers of presidency and limitations that the president must abide by. I however disagree that the founding fathers would understand why things are the way they are. It is easy to see that avoiding political parties would have kept the government running more smoothly than it is now.
Deletemost of the power if they have dominance in the house of representatives and senate as well. This is not what the founding fathers wanted for presidential office. They wanted a leader not something to change policy the way the government is setup.
ReplyDeleteThe founding fathers wouldvery disappointed in the fact that political parties have disputes and compete for presidential office and try to gain
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Based off on today's "modern" presidency, the founding fathers would be disappointed on some level because certain things have not turned out by the way they have wanted. The president is not the most powerful person the world. He is not because there are limits set upon him. For example, the checks and balances makes sure that each branch does not overpower each other.
ReplyDeleteI agree, most of the power isn't in the president, as most people are lead to believe, but is within the Congress. Thanks to the check and balance system, we can keep the president from converting the nation into a dictatorship. Thus, we can interpret that the fathers gave the majority of the power to Congress, which consists of many members, to better represent the wishes of the people, not to create a position of ultimate power.
DeleteTrue the President has his limits but I disagree in the fact the President presides over bureaucracies in which can control entire nations if he willed. Not to mention change the course of history, maybe Watergate? The Bay of Pigs? Cold War? The Founding Fathers would disagree without a doubt.
DeleteThe founding fathers would have been appalled by the manner in which the presidency is conducted. Wherein the president can manipulate and blatantly misinterpret/abuse his powers to benefit his or his counterparts' well being. However, he is still limited on the actual influence he has in law reformation or legislature. Therefore; although, he may be powerful, the president still isn't the most powerful man in the world as most of the power, which is mistakenly believed to lie within him, lies in the Congress.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the Founding Fathers would be very uplifted to see that our government still stands since the moment they created it. However, if they were to to take a closer look and examine the presidency we have today, they would think that we have not build onto the foundation they left behind. The presidency has done many things that contradict with the views and ideas that the Founding Fathers tried to implement. As for the president, he is clearly not as powerful as he is presented to be. It is true that that the president holds his share of power and it may seem like this power is growing, but the other branches of our government, the executive and judicail branches, hold their share of power too, as well as the power to check on the president and his actions.
ReplyDeleteThe President at this point in time is the most powerful man in the world thanks to the unrestricted ability of creating bureaucracies that fall under his control; to which I might add fall under no other nation's jurisdiction but the own President's say-so. The Founding Fathers would be impressed by the utilization of the loophole, become disgusted and intend to mend the gaping boon that is the President's ultimate power.
ReplyDeleteI disagree. The president does not really have power. The founding fathers have never wanted the pesidency to be divided. They did not believe in political parties.
DeleteThe founding fathers would be ashamed to see how the presidency has changed over the years. First of all we put Washington's advice to shame by starting political parties and getting involved with foreign countries. They probably laugh at how our government's in shambles. As for the second question the president is definitely not the most powerful man in the world. There are so may other people with more power than him, first of all he has very limited powers, however he does have his veto to stop a bill he doesn't feel will help him in the long run become a law.
ReplyDeleteThe Founding Fathers would be astonished by how the presidency has changed. In modern day presidency, the president wastes a lot of money on campaigns. In the days the Founding Fathers there were no such things as campaigns or political parties. I believe the president isn't powerful because he doesn't have the direct power to make laws. I believe the Congress has more power because I can pass bills without the president's support.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the founding fathers would be satisfied with the way presidency is currently going but it's a different time now and the president has many more responsibilities than in previous years. The president is not the most powerful man, there are so many restrictions with the checks and balances system that it would be very difficult for the president to become the most powerful man. Right now it seems congress holds more power than the president but its a big waste since nothing is getting accomplished due to each parties opposing views.
ReplyDeleteThe founding fathers may be disappointed in our modern political system because the amount of control and limitations that it poses to states; however, I am unsure as to whether or not the corruption of the government would be surprising to them. What many people fail to realize is that our founding fathers developed this nation to benefit themselves firstly. The greed of politics has evolved into an absolute hindrance. Also, the idea that the president holds the most political power should be dismissed because of checks and balances. Instead, we need to realize that our president actually holds the most direct influence over the people. Taking this into account makes us realize that the president can have unlimited power if he plays his cards right.
ReplyDeleteThe Founding Fathers would be disappointed in how our presidency is today. They pointed out that we shouldn't have political parties but America didn't listen and formed them. Which takes some part in why our government is so powerful today in ways it shouldn't be. Therefore, Our Founding Fathers would be very disappointed in because they warned us.
ReplyDeleteThe founding fathers would disagree with modern presidency. They would not solely agree on what the presidency is consisted of. They did not believe in political parties. Now a days, that is what the presidency is made up of. It is divided within its own branch. The president has little power. It is presumed that he has the most power but looking into it, he does not. All the president really has the power to do is either veto or pass a law and act as the commander and chief of the military.
ReplyDeleteThe founding fathers would be disappointed due to the fact that the country is separated instead of being united in a tragic situation that we are in dealing with the economy. Modern day is political parties and money its not even about whats best for the nation but for whats going to make money. Also the president has no power all he is a puppet that the government uses to get across people and to motivate people in believing in the government that they will fix everything.
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